In the wake of my New York Times Opinion piece detailing the struggle of galleries, veteran artworld commentator Josh Baer asked me to join auction-house legend turned advisor extraordinaire Amy Cappellazzo on his Baer Faxt Podcast. I've learned lots talking to these two gimlet-eyed experts for two decades, but never in public. If you’re looking for a boisterous, blunt, fractious and often fun discussion that dissects problems and explores solutions, this definitely qualifies.