“In my most core self, I’m a writer and a performer,” says Miranda July. But since coming of age in Portland’s riot-grrrl scene, July has made a name for herself as a true multi-hyphenate: artist, singer, screenwriter, author, Hollywood film director and actress, and more. In this episode, she speaks with me about writing her first play – based on correspondence with a convicted murderer – to releasing her film 'Kajillionaire' in the midst of the pandemic and the flood of DMs that followed. “My entire experience of the release was those messages,” she recalls. I really loved this conversation and it made me into a huge fan of Miranda July, a distinctly American Artist in all the best senses of those words. Frankly, she's a national treasure. Epilogue: In the episode she cryptically refers to a book she’s working on - which turned out to be her perimenopause masterpiece “All Fours."