Today’s experiments in art and technology are wide-ranging, and few know better about the latest developments than Daniel Birnbaum, director and curator of Acute Art, and New York City–based artist Jacolby Satterwhite. In this episode, Birnbaum and Satterwhite talk to me about the use of virtual reality as an artistic medium, the future of mixed reality and the ‘metaverse’, the digitalization and democratization of the artworld, the idea of cosmic NFTs, and, oddly enough, the KGB as a propoganda-arti collective.